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sedgemonkey
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   Calendar Event: #1: Tablet User?Posted: 21 July 2006 at 12:21pm |
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Howdy good peeps. Just giving the Poll feature in the forum a test run.
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pixelblink
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 12:40pm |
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I've got a tablet but it's so difficult to work with that I never use it. I'd rather use a scanner for my drawings to work with
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Lawrence
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 12:50pm |
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Oh no I can't vote :o
(btw I don't even have a tablet). |
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Saboteur
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 1:15pm |
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Hahaha, neither can I.
I could do with a tablet for concept sketching, or so I like to think, but I don't have one currently.
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Larwick
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 1:17pm |
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I voted no. I don't have a tablet, although would love one. Mainly for digital art other than pixel art though, of which i'd probably stick to the mouse anyway.
EDIT: slightly wrong wording.  Edited by Larwick - 21 July 2006 at 3:08pm |
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Skull
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 1:21pm |
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Mouse.. and Mouse alone!
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sedgemonkey
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 2:55pm |
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sh*t, the voting's not working?
Edit: Fixed the voting. Edited by sedgemonkey - 21 July 2006 at 2:59pm |
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Saboteur
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 3:01pm |
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You're welcome for casting my vote!
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alkaline
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 3:03pm |
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I think a tablet is great for digital art. Not really for pixel art, but I use the tablet to easily sketch out what I want to pixel if it's big enough sometimes. I like the tablet for things like open canvas, painter, ps etc. IMO I get more control out of it
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snader
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 6:30pm |
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tablets are great for anything brushy, like opencanvas and photoshop stuff, and for sketching out pixelart, but for detailing etc pixels i still use mouse. i like the way it works like a pen, and i got accostomed really easy to it. i lost my mouse skills though. i used to be better on a mouse then some really great srtists i know on a tablet. but i dont néed the skills anymore so its fine. i got a cheap one by the way, cost me 15 bucks.i can reccomend buying one to people, just a cheap one. you don't have to go for wacom immediately. just a 50 buck one or something will seriously boost CG skills and speed. (well.. that is, if you can handle a pencil fairly well ofcourse) |
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dogvetusa
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 8:36pm |
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I want one of the tablets that you can see on the tablet itself what you are drawing. but those ccost a tons of money
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iSTVAN
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 8:54pm |
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I'm exactly the same as PB. I was given a tablet for my birthday a couple of years ago, but I've it's pretty useless for my pixel art and I'm only just getting into other forms of digital art. Although I love hand drawing, my skills with the mouse beat a digital pen, which most people seem to find strange when I tell them.
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Listen to what the flower people say...
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jalonso
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 10:36pm |
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I only pixel with a tablet. I thought more people did?
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Aleiav
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Posted: 21 July 2006 at 10:56pm |
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Nah, I don't have a tablet. I don't think it really improves pixel art, personally. Unless you're doing large pieces.
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Ensellitis
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Posted: 22 July 2006 at 1:46am |
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the only tablet i have is the one sitting in my briefcase. it has a hard flip cover and a pencil, and filled with paper
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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross. |
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Blueberry_pie
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Posted: 22 July 2006 at 2:34am |
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I've got a tablet hooked up on my PC... it's actually my sister's tablet, but it didn't work on her PC somehow.
I really want to like the thing and I try to use it as much as possible, but I just have a really hard time making something good with it. I've been using a mouse for so long that I can draw better with that than with a tablet. For pixel art I've always used a mouse. |
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Weasel
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Posted: 22 July 2006 at 3:48am |
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I resently upgraded to a wacom tablet, sooo much better than the cheaper ones if you -do- you your tablet a lot. Though, as Snader said, buying a cheap one, to see if you'd actually get any use out of first, is deffinatly a good idea.
I tend not to use it to pixel though (main reason being the awkard size more than anything, for very precise movements), sketching pixels yes, drawing/painting/doodling very much so but actual pixeling, not generally. Edited by Weasel - 22 July 2006 at 3:49am |
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rabidbaboy
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Joined: 25 July 2006 Location: Philippines Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
Posted: 27 July 2006 at 1:52am |
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mouse>tablet.
of course, that's because i don't have one.:D |
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Skull
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Posted: 27 July 2006 at 1:54am |
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Originally posted by rabidbaboy mouse>tablet. of course, that's because i don't have one.:D I had one, but it broke.. really easily.. I never actually used it. |
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rabidbaboy
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Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:03am |
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mouse is better.
see, sturider too.=P |
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"baboy" is Filipino for "pig"
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Stitchy
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Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:51pm |
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I don't have a tablet, but would really like one for digital art other
than pixel art. Re-outlining a drawing on the computer works wonders
for the quality of the picture, and I just can't do it with the mouse
(though I can oekaki with it. :B)
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Shark
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Posted: 28 July 2006 at 2:51am |
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Well im thinking of buying one, just to save time scanning and cleaning up.
But for now ts a no. Edited by Shark - 28 July 2006 at 2:51am |
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Snark, we love yuu.
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ryumaru
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Posted: 30 July 2006 at 1:36pm |
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i wish i had one to, as im basically scanner-less. i could make my pixelart have more of my traditional art look, which would be really cool.
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Mykola
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Posted: 03 August 2006 at 2:16pm |
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Oh well I use both mouse and WACOM on and off... Even for pixel art
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InfernoMan.EXE
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 1:01pm |
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Originally posted by Weasel I resently upgraded to a wacom tablet, sooo much better than the cheaper ones if you -do- you your tablet a lot. Though, as Snader said, buying a cheap one, to see if you'd actually get any use out of first, is deffinatly a good idea. I tend not to use it to pixel though (main reason being the awkard size more than anything, for very precise movements), sketching pixels yes, drawing/painting/doodling very much so but actual pixeling, not generally. Yeah, i got one recently and they are better than cheap ones  i only use it for getting a rough idea for pixeling, and a little in photoshop. |
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jalonso
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 10:49pm |
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So odd!? I really thought more people pixelled exclusi velywith a tablet.
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Mykola
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Posted: 07 August 2006 at 3:07pm |
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Jalonso you do your stuff with 100% tablet?
Crazy skills :D Then again I believe Ian Mclean said he uses tablet a lot... I guess it's just a matter of taste
I use my tablet not so often for pixels recently... I actually get more tired when pixeling with a tablet... it rocks for illustrations tho :D
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jalonso
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Posted: 07 August 2006 at 10:18pm |
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Originally posted by Mykola Jalonso you do your stuff with 100% tablet? yep  |
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alkaline
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Posted: 08 August 2006 at 7:17am |
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how do you get exactly what you want with just tablet lines? I do find that you get more control, but not THAT much control. That's why I only use it for sketching and anything else.
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Anlina S.
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 7:42am |
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I almost exclusively use a tablet for pixeling. I can work with a mouse no problem, but I find that the tablet is more precise and quicker.
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eghost
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Posted: 09 August 2006 at 8:20am |
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Mouse only for me...Tablet's kinda clunky with my typical pieces...
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Filax_666
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Posted: 14 August 2006 at 4:47am |
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I bought a Graphire like...three or four weeks ago. I love it. It was
the cheapest I could find though, because I didn't wan't to waste money
on something I didn't even know if I would like to use. Sucks for
pixeling though. Especially for dithering. But it was great improvement
from my trackpad :D
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kwigbo
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Posted: 22 August 2006 at 10:38am |
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I have a wacom tablet but I just use it for the mouse. I should sell it cause I do more coding than digital art. I also prefer the mouse when pixeling.
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sinkquick
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Posted: 23 August 2006 at 10:14am |
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Originally posted by pixelblink
I've got a tablet but it's so difficult to work with that I never use it. I'd rather use a scanner for my drawings to work with I agree. I've had my tablet for a few years now and have never got the hang of it. I personally find it just as easy to use my mouse with the pen tool when creating more detailed pieces of work. |
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Ensellitis
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Posted: 23 August 2006 at 11:11am |
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THEN SELL 2 ME!!!
i wants one :( |
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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross. |
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Elk
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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 10:18am |
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i always used my mouse <3
but im going to change to tablet...if i ever find it <.<
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Larwick
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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 10:20am |
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Originally posted by Elk
i always used my mouse <3 but im going to change to tablet...if i ever find it <.< Hey Elk! Welcome to the forum!
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Elk
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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 10:41am |
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thanks :)
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Buzz
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 7:23pm |
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Yay, I got my tablet today.
It's a Wacom, and it's pretty neat, really great for drawing, adn blocking out colors, not so great for dithering, but thats expected. It also came packaged with Photoshop elements and corel paint so that makes me happy... Hopefully I can submit my first tablet piece soon. |
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spiderbunny
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Posted: 02 September 2006 at 12:33pm |
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I use a tablet almost exclusively for any art I do. I'm new to pixel art so I'm certainly not fast but overall the tablet cuts down on the strain on my wrist that using a mouse typically puts on it...especially with all the fiddling pixel art needs.
If I could figure out how to comfortably use my tablet for WoW I'd do that, too. WoW mousing is a horrible wrist-killer for me. x___x |
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:mina:
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 2:05pm |
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I've been saving up for a WACOM tablet for ages.
I can wield a mouse with some precission, but sometimes the *click**click**click* is enough to get my blood pressure going.
That.
And doing CG work and my hand slips, all of a sudden I have this lovely paint smeer across the entire piccy. *Mufufu*
(Nothing that CTRL-Z can't fix, but it takes o.2 sec. out of my painting time! Arg. I won't stand for it.)
Tablet for CG. Mouse for pixels. Or maybe it would work better, I dunno yet. :D
*drools*
I want onnne... Edited by :mina: - 09 September 2006 at 2:33pm |
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Saboteur
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:44am |
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I get miiiine tomorrrrrrrrrooooow!
/peepantsexcitement.
Wacom. Graphire4. Minuscule by tiny. Excellente.
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jalonso
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:52am |
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DO
program the stylus to your sensitivy DON'T give up on it cuz you're used to a mouse |
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buloght
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 9:09am |
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A mouse be my sword and pen.
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Saboteur
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 11:39pm |
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DID program my stylus for its 512 levels of pressure sensitivity.
WILL continue to use it, even though, especially for the moment, it is not nearly as efficient as my mousework.
I could do with a steadier pencilhand. Who knows, maybe it'll even make my pennmanship legible, over time.
I fricking love it, though. Beautiful, beautiful little piece of plastic. And metal, I think.
(Updates and product/practicalness criticism)
I still love my tablet. It's fun, and I'm using it for all kinds of things I could do better with the mouse, merely because I can. As I've mentioned a few bazillion times, I got the Graphire4 4by5 tablet, and I honestly can't complain about the size. It works for me, and I don't think any larger would really be that much better.
It does and will take some getting used to, though. I find it incredibly hard to draw a straight line using the pencil tool. Also, pressing the button on the pen (which should simulate a right click) causes the tip of the pen to move, sometimes making me select a colour I did not want to (Graphicsgale, right-click = eyedropper).
The absolute positioning is also taking time to work with. It should be handy once I get a handle on it, but at the moment I find myself doing all kinds of mouse tricks with the stylus, and making myself look like a fool in the process. For the record, absolute positioning means you can put your pen on the top-right corner of your pad, and it will show on the top-right corner of your screen. Mouses use relative positioning, which move the cursor relative to its current location.
For the moment, the wacom is a pretty addition to my computer desk, though not immediately efficient. It set me back 85 bucks for the tablet itself, 40 for shipping, and then another 42 for duties, 'cause I shipped across the border. I consider it wholely worth it, and reccomend one to any pixel artists out there who are thinkin' about getting one.
I'd imagine it would be vastly more useful for other digital arts, but I really don't do any of those, so I cannot vouch. It is convenient, wireless, programmable, and more interactive than your mouse. Change is good, in my opinion, and I'm all for this change. Edited by Saboteur - 15 September 2006 at 1:18am |
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Saboteur
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 1:21am |
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Haha, bump slash relevant posting.
Gaming with tablets is fun. I kinda wanna get an FPS just to see if there are any crazy advantages to having a tablet for it. I don't think there would be, but you neever know. |
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neota
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 7:48pm |
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Originally posted by Saboteur It does and will take some getting used to, though. I find it incredibly hard to draw a straight line using the pencil tool. In GIMP. Shift-Click draws a straight line from the last position you drew at to the position you click at now. Surely GGale has something similar. The absolute positioning is also taking time to work with. It should be handy once I get a handle on it, but at the moment I find myself doing all kinds of mouse tricks with the stylus, and making myself look like a fool in the process. For the record, absolute positioning means you can put your pen on the top-right corner of your pad, and it will show on the top-right corner of your screen. Mouses use relative positioning, which move the cursor relative to its current location. You might be able to program the tablet to map to the image window -- so that topleft of tablet == topleft of image window, bottomright of tablet == bottomright of image window. Or possibly just the GGale window. GIMP supports that (I've tried both, but I prefer access to the full screen ( 1280x1172 in my case)). It might be better for a small tablet. For the moment, the wacom is a pretty addition to my computer desk, though not immediately efficient. It took me a couple of weeks to get used to. I'd previously used an inferior tablet for CG work only (cause it was crippled to only work in Windoze) I'd imagine it would be vastly more useful for other digital arts, but I really don't do any of those, so I cannot vouch. Depending on your paint program, pressure sensitivity is useful for pixeling.. I get a 5x5 circular brush, enable pressure effecting brush size, and use it to color/shade. Depending on how gentle I'm feeling, I can do most of the details before I need to switch down to 1pix brush. It is convenient, wireless, programmable, and more interactive than your mouse. Change is good, in my opinion, and I'm all for this change. YES. I actually initially liked it for how easy it made UI navigation.. Absolute positioning is a lot more sensible for UI navigation. |
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absolutely.
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ceddo
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Posted: 30 November 2006 at 12:43pm |
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Jajajaja!!!
I started pixel art with the mouse but got Repetitive Strain Injury from doing it, so I bought myself a small WACOM one. I would stop pixel art if I didn't have access to a tablet now :) It's also very useful whenever I come up with a concept: I don't have to draw it on paper and go through that hassle of scanning it... Just start a separate layer and start-a sketchin'. Edited by ceddo - 30 November 2006 at 12:49pm |
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Videl
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Posted: 30 November 2006 at 10:03pm |
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i have used one even though i don't own one. I found it rather difficult to use.
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