try using a ditherpattern for the shadow, or alpha transparency, so it will blend better with the grass

alpha transparency werkt alleen met het *.png formaat, en ik weet niet of je engine dat ondersteunt

 

Jeez, another Hollannetherllandaise, you guys are like viruses 

This looks perfect to me

Hello All,

Thank you very much for your feedback. I appreciate it!

@Pixel_Outlaw:
The virdict on the grass is still out there. I thought it was
easier to reduce in detail then it is to add detail. 
In the past I have been using darker and less detailed
backgrounds and it didn't felt 'alive'. But hey maybe
I was doing something wrong....

@Jalonso:
I take your comments (both) as a compliment

@Snader and rest:

OK, this what I came up with:


1. Dithering the complete shadow:




2. Dithering the 'outer' shadow



3. Just one line of shadow + dithering:


When using only dithering instead of plain shadow the
objects have a strange 'highlight' beneath them.
When I must select I think the second one is the best.
But personally I would vote for the none-dithering that I had
previously.


Holes in the hedge:
The hedges should be really firm as they are supposed to block
the player. If they became to lose you might think that you can
pass them. But then again, in real life, you would be able to force
yourself through them anyway...


Flowers in the hedge:
Hey, this is nice. It really pops out and is pleasant to
look at.



Redish leaves (photinia red robin hedge):

This really works well. Allthough it tends to give a more autumn feeling, the bush really says: till here and no further!



In case I haven't implemented the suggestions, please correct me!

The next phase is to make hedges that go around the corner / cross
etcetera. But I want to make sure I'm on the right track of the basic
hedge-form.


Best regards from

M.E.

Hello All,

Currently there have been many bushes/hedges made but
I'm having a problem with the vertical hedge.
Maybe I'm having problems in other areas as well, so please
feel free to comment on them!

But I would like an advice on the vertical one espacially.

This is the last mockup :



I have a feeling that the vertical hedge has another structure than
the horizontal versions.

Here is the WIP in action:



I tried even building the leaves again as I did previously but somehow
they don't work.


Thanks in advance for pointing me in the right direction.


Best regards from

M.E.

Hello Monkey 'o Doom,

Thank you very much for your response.

I tried to use your advice, but I'm not sure if I
really understood it well.

Shrinking the highlighted and shadow sides of the vertical
one? Do you mean the outer edges of the hedge?
The side of the hedge, or the side of the leaves?

I started out with the advice of using more dark in the
upper layer of the hedge. First I used a far too large leave
and started again with a smaller one:

   last version in game:


Maybe I'm doing something wrong with form instead of coloring?
Or I misunderstood the advice.

Thanks in advance in helping me with my faults!

Kind regards from

M.E.

Edit: In game view



Edited by M.E. - 01 April 2007 at 12:37pm

Hello All,

Well I am ashamed to say that I have rotated the
hedge and copied the top leaves to the vertical
version.

And then I made two versions. One soft as
the orginal horizontal hedge. And a more
darker version.

Which do you prefer?

Find the difference



Thanks in advance for your comments.

Best regards from

M.E.

Hello Jalonso, MoD and rest,


Well, I saw that I miss-copied on e of the vertical hedges
on the last mockup. The verticals were the same ..
so no difference there. Only the horizontal had some
more darks. Never mind.

Here is what I have at the moment. I think it is better than
before and the best one yet...



If anybody has something to add and/or comment on, please feel
free to do so!


Kind regards from

M.E.

Ha Ha Snader,

You caught one of my pre-WIPs on water. I was working on them
and they somehow found their way into the hedge-mockup.
Those silly tiles!

It is supposed to be water. But it needs A LOT of work before I even
attempt to ask for help on them. 

How about the hedges? Can I continue on them as they are or do you
think that it needs more work?


Kind regards from

M.E.

Hello Jalonso,

Since you gave me the go on the hedges, I wend to tidy up the edges
and did the casting of the shadows and made a few more of the
cross-hedges.

This is the current state:




If nobody has anything to comment I will call this done and move on
to other challenging objects (like water )


Best regards from

M.E.

Hello PixelBlink,

Thank you for your feedback.
I don't really understand why you want a tileset, but I
made one for you:


I'm not a big fan of grass tiles that give a stichy feeling and I tried to
create one that didn't stich. See my previous 'grassland' threat.
The grass isn't a tile, it is one large image.

The boulders are supposed to be moveable. Putting a rock next to it will
not give a feeling that you can move it. The rocks should go into the
holes to fill them and make a path for the player. (among other
actions you can do with them)

I figured when you have much going on on the other objects, the
hedges need as well be rich. In case you think I need to do them
differently I kindly ask if you could make an edit to show me how
I'm supposed to be making them!

Thank you for your efforts.

Best regards from

M.E.

Edit: Tileset upload


Edited by M.E. - 06 April 2007 at 2:14am