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CHALLENGE: Selective Outlining

Using only 15 colors of your choice on a 150x150 canvas make an item on a transparent background which focuses on the SelOut (Selective Outlining) technique.

The pixel itself may be a figure, object or anything at all. While overall idea and general pixel prowess is of some importance in getting votes. The SelOut is what matters this week.

Rules:
  • Canvas Size: 150x150 pixels max.
  • Colour Restriction: 15 color palette max  (16th color is transparency).
  • Transparency: Must use to best judge the SelOut technique used.
  • Animations are allowed but probably not suited for judging purposes.
(download GIFFY from the FAQ page in the gallery or use www.iaza.com if needed. www.spriteart.com has a great SelOut tutorial [see the links page])

CHALLENGE RULES

  • Participants have until this upcoming Sunday at midnight (12AM Pacific) to submit their entry (strict). Don't forget to check the 'Submit to weekly challenge' checkbox.
  • Only new pixels allowed.
  • Open to all members.
  • Posting WIPs in this thread or in new threads in the WIP section is highly encouraged, but ONLY SUBMIT YOUR FINAL ART.

EDIT: Rule adjustment/refinements-jal 10-16

CHALLENGE JUDGING

  • Every Sunday at midnight (12AM Pacific) the previous week's entries are judged.
  • Every week a new voting poll will be posted for previous week's entries.
  • Winner announced the following week.

CHALLENGE PRIZES/GOODIES

  • Top three finishers will receive an award displayed in your PJ gallery profile for all to see and envy.
  • Top finisher gets to call the following week's challenge...sweet.
  • 'Participation' ribbons will be given for all who enter.
  • No matter what happens you get challenged :)

CHALLENGE VOTING

Vote now for your favorite pixelart in this week's challenge!

CHALLENGE AWARDS

The Selective Outlining pixel art challenge is complete and we have three new champions. This week's challenge awards go to the following pieces:



Thanks so much to all who took the time to vote and participate in the challenge!



Edited by jalonso - 16 October 2007 at 9:47am
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Quote PJB21 Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 2:22am
hey can anyone quide me to a good explanation of selout, because i dotn know what it is >_<
 
i may enter if i know whats happening, heh.
 
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Quote Leroy Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 2:31am
i wasnt able to find the Links-section in www.spriteart.com(site didnt load correctly oslt), but i found this http://pixel-zone.rpgdx.net/shtml/tut-selout.shtml

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Quote greenraven Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 9:28am
St0ven's tuts were pretty awesome. But sadly Spriteart went down some time during the summer. 
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Quote Leroy Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 9:41am
i found this just now http://www.spriteart.com/tutorials/ couldnt find the selout tutorial(?)
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 10:37am
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Quote Doomcreator0 Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 1:39pm

Im afraid I'm still not sure what Sel Outline means.

Is it basicaly just like a show of wips?
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Quote PJB21 Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 2:40pm
correct me if im wrong, but is it basicly shading your linework as well?
 
(eg, light parts of the image have the corisponding linework lighter, while dark areas of shadow have a darker line)
 
thats what i got after a flick through the links anyway, feel free to correct me if im wrong.
 
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 5:00pm
You are correct PJB21. Its not quite that simple and good selout is a true skill worth learning. The most exaggerated examples are seem in Pokemon Gameboy game. They rely heavily on 'bad' selout.
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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 6:48pm
Selout means "Selective Outling" meaning that it is not a simple black outline nor is it use of aa.

The best example of this is a great tutorial by Derek Yu
If you go through his complete tutorial before just jumping to the Selout bit, you'll understand it alot better.

Hope that helps everyone
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Quote eghost Replybullet Posted: 15 October 2007 at 7:21pm
Quit nit-picky question...Do we have to have our piece touch all four sides of the 150x150? Or just be large enough to require that kind of canvas?
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Quote PJB21 Replybullet Posted: 16 October 2007 at 4:20am
i belive its the latter, since most pixel art has a 'bleed' area around it, and making a piece with a square outline (or rather square dimentions) would only add to the complcations and would typicly mean sqewing the image.
 
however i didnt make the comp, so i suggest waiting for a more experianced opinion.
 
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 16 October 2007 at 4:38am
Animations allowed?
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 16 October 2007 at 9:46am
Animations are best kept out of it, me thinks : /

Yes that's a max size of 150x150

Rules edited, thx guys.


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Quote PJB21 Replybullet Posted: 16 October 2007 at 12:45pm
hopefuly ill be able to get soemthing done (time permiting)
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Quote Doomcreator0 Replybullet Posted: 16 October 2007 at 2:43pm
Thanks for that pixelblink. That cleared things up a lot. I'll get to work on this.
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Quote Shadow-gamer Replybullet Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:10pm
I have a question.
Would a submission be allowed to take up one full side and half of two others?
Like, say, a mountain?
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Quote PJB21 Replybullet Posted: 17 October 2007 at 2:57pm
the max size is 150 pixels * 150 pixels, it can be smaller, but not bigger.
 
so a sprite of medium size, or an object maybe, something like that. of corse you could do a mountain, but remember it must have a transparent background, and as such should be a free standing entity.
 
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Quote Shadow-gamer Replybullet Posted: 17 October 2007 at 3:15pm
Originally posted by PJB21

the max size is 150 pixels * 150 pixels, it can be smaller, but not bigger.

so a sprite of medium size, or an object maybe, something like that. of corse you could do a mountain, but remember it must have a transparent background, and as such should be a free standing entity.


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Of course the image is still 150*150 I wasn't changing it.
I wanted to know if something that takes up 3/4 sides (leaving only the top of the landscape outlined) would be allowed.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 18 October 2007 at 5:26pm
looks like no one was interested in this one. or everyone is working on the PixelWeen

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Quote PJB21 Replybullet Posted: 19 October 2007 at 12:58am
it doeasnt seam exesivly popular, however i do have some spare time now so hopefuly ill be able to submit something.
 
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:04am
Better chances for color ribbons 

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Quote eghost Replybullet Posted: 19 October 2007 at 1:42pm
I'm currently working on an entry for this one myself...Just figured I'd post the WIP for it on the WIP board...
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Quote MashPotato Replybullet Posted: 19 October 2007 at 5:28pm
I've started on an entry, if only just to finally determine what selout actually is
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2007 at 10:07am
there was decision: the pixelween or the regular comps, and i decided the second.


SV-000, Based on the Concept drawings found the PSX Version of Metal Slug ( ref )
(animated, of course.)


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Quote MashPotato Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2007 at 3:16pm
WIP; it's Ulala from Space Channel 5 

...what I'm doing here IS selout, right?

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2007 at 8:27pm
I love that game. i'll say yes, it is selout in my opinion.

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Quote MashPotato Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2007 at 9:44pm
Further along, only some tweaking left 

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Quote greenraven Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2007 at 11:24pm
That is looking mighty fine. 

Throw in Micheal Jackson if you can. (He's in the game too.)
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:35am
Mash I just can't express what a cool pixel that is. You make me feel inadequate.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 9:59am


Finished!

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Quote MashPotato Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 11:06am
Submitted! No Michael Jackson, I'm afraid
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Quote Elk Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:27pm
wow lots of entries this time =)
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Quote sedgemonkey Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:52pm
Yeah, I'm hoping the lack of entries is because all of you suckas are working on your Pixelween entries. 
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Quote MashPotato Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 1:13pm
I think part of the reason for the lack of entries (so far, that is--there's still some time ), is that selout is kind of vague... I made an entry, and if you asked me I still wouldn't be able to explain to you what selout is exactly... the Zoggles and Derek Yu examples look quite different to me.

On a different note, there are currently some entries that aren't following the transparency rules.  Hurry, there's still time to fix it!
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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 2:53pm
Uuuuh, this IS selout right?
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Quote Di0xygen Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by BlackDragon

Uuuuh, this IS selout right?


THERE's almost no selout in this , blackdragon.

Selective outlining means not having a black outline everywhere, but having a colored outline that changes depending on the color and light, its quite hard to selout something that has a black suit.  And those red gloves selout is quite shy tbh.


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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 4:08pm
Oh, OK. Just checking, and good point. I just couldn't understand the concept O_o I always thought it meant making the outline smooter by breaking the outline a bit in places.

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by MashPotato


On a different note, there are currently some entries that aren't following the transparency rules.  Hurry, there's still time to fix it!
 
Fixed u,u

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Quote Shadow-gamer Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:30pm
May I kindly ask why my entry failed? It followed all the rules. You even let some entries through that ignored the rules...
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Quote greenraven Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:36pm
Post a pic of your entry. It's no longer visible now that it's been taken down.
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Quote Shadow-gamer Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by greenraven

Post a pic of your entry. It's no longer visible now that it's been taken down.
I would if I could. But I'm not on my comp. Plus it's almost 10:00.
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Quote eghost Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:59pm
I was actually working on an entry for this and ended up getting a dissertation on the principles and evils of selout...So, while I won't have a piece ready in time for this I do think I learned a few things, and I think the piece will end up better...
 
Here's the thread ( Only for those really interested in advanced technique theory): http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=5253.0
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Quote greenraven Replybullet Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:26am
Oh noes, it got rejected. Now I'm going to have to go and throw a hissy fit. Nah, just kidding. 

Yeah, I was afraid I didn't quite get what a SelOut was. It's too late to get it back into the challenge, but at least I can figure out where I went wrong.

"I have not failed, I just found 10,000 ways that didn't work." ~ Thomas Edison

Lil help on how this could be soldout?


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Quote Skull Replybullet Posted: 22 October 2007 at 10:03am
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Quote Noburo Replybullet Posted: 24 October 2007 at 5:30pm
Before I went and submitted this I wanted to make sure this IS infact a proper use of selout.



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Quote greenraven Replybullet Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:10pm
Contest ended already. You can still submit it, just not for the challenge.

And I'm still waiting for a response myself.
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Quote Noburo Replybullet Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:22pm
Well dang... :(   
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