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    Posted: 07 November 2009 at 8:39pm
Just wondering what others see...
I'm working on my winter PJ avvy for this year and can't tell how obvious my scarab is in this. Is the second arm even needed (in the middle image)? Does it look too wierd? BG or no BG? If you saw this alone would you even see my scarab at all?


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Quote ekobor Replybullet Posted: 07 November 2009 at 10:15pm
The scarab is very hard to notice.
Right now it looks like a snowman with a scarf in the wind.

Not sure how you would fix it though, sorry.

Perhaps you could make a scarab snow-angel?
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Quote Elk Replybullet Posted: 08 November 2009 at 1:23am
give it a cigarrete and have the smoke be the other leg ^^
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Quote pixer Replybullet Posted: 08 November 2009 at 3:13am
i see your scarab, he's on the second pic x)

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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 08 November 2009 at 11:50am
I sort of see the scarab since you pointed it out, but I never would have if you hadn't.
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Quote lucas_irineu Replybullet Posted: 08 November 2009 at 1:03pm
I agree with hatch here.
Maybe you could change something on his bottom. Not sure why though. Maybe a hole in the snow or something. :/
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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 08 November 2009 at 1:31pm
Any reason you can't just make the scarab body itself out of snow, jam some sticks in it for legs, and give it a pipe/coal?

EDIT: Maybe have it it face up rather than your usual face down

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Quote Ninja Crow Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 2:00am
I think the snowman is awesome - well pixelled and full of character.  The background is very supporting of the image, and the corner tabs definitely give it the look of a season's-greetings card/photo.  And the animated snow is the cherry on top.

Sorry, the scarab shape doesn't read unless you know to look.  I'm assuming you're not going for a hidden picture contest, so how about trying something like giving the snowman two sets of stick arms?
(it sounded cool and exciting at first thought, and it's never been done before, but I admit I don't know if it'd be awesome or weird unless I saw it first!)

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by Hatch

Any reason you can't just make the scarab body itself out of snow, jam some sticks in it for legs, and give it a pipe/coal?


Duh! why of course 9.9
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Quote A.B. Lazer Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 1:47pm
Why not just give him another pair of threads-hands (like Ninja Crow said) instead of making an illusion? It will easily produce insect associations. But if you aim to draw just regular snowman - maybe put him into desert setting (oh, yeah, very regular)? Nevermind.

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Quote Lollige Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 2:31pm
first one is muuuuch better than all the other ones!
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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 3:22pm
I think all the little sprigs coming off the twigs make them look more like roots. and slightly creepy, for some reason. diggin' it otherwise.

(don't forget his scarf)
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by Hatch

Any reason you can't just make the scarab body itself out of snow, jam some sticks in it for legs, and give it a pipe/coal?


Duh! thx!
Pipe gets all messy looking in there. (strict color palette)




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Quote Pragz Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 6:30pm
This one looks much better. I like it a lot! :D
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Quote CaKsTeR Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 8:59pm
I don't think the lower half of the scarf is necessary, considering you've already got an arm half-visible underneath it. I don't normally (Or at all?) see people wearing scarves with two... whatever you call 'ems flapping out behind them.

That aside, it looks quite nice! The two-frame animation looks a bit choppy in some places, but I don't know if you have any set restrictions.
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Quote IsoWayne Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2009 at 10:54pm
Maybe replace the bottom legs with snow made legs. I just think there are too many limbs right now. It makes the scarab way too obvious and not subtle but noticable.

If you give it legs made of snow it will make it look less obvious but will keep the scarab visable.
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Quote r1k Replybullet Posted: 10 November 2009 at 2:44am
the lower legs look sort of wierd.  I had an idea, not sure how it would turn out exactly but you could try putting the snowman on the ground again and then for the lower legs have two objects in the forground that happen to appear to be placed where the legs would go.  Not sure what type of objects you could use though.
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Quote Ninja Crow Replybullet Posted: 10 November 2009 at 11:39am
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Duh! thx!
Pipe gets all messy looking in there. (strict color palette)




This is very dynamic (like he's jumping down from some higher perch, holding his hat on) and cool.

But even though there are so many demands on yer poor snowbug, here's more....
  • You must keep the pipe! (smoke is optional)
  • Sticks look better red and thinner
  • Snow blinks on and off here, rather than falling
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Quote Pragz Replybullet Posted: 10 November 2009 at 3:19pm
I think it has to be 2 frames since all the other animations in his avatar file are 2 frames?
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 10 November 2009 at 4:03pm
Ya, I have a self imposed 2 frame limit. That was just thrown in. I'll fix the snow.
I'll have to play around again soon.

If the branches go to the orange red ramp then I only have green and blue for the scarf and that didn't look good...yup strict color limit too.
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Quote Pragz Replybullet Posted: 10 November 2009 at 6:54pm
What is your color limit?
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 10 November 2009 at 7:21pm
Its not that I have a color limit. Its that I will only add a color when there is just no other option. Originally my scarab had 8 colors, current pallette is somewhere around 20.
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Quote Ninja Crow Replybullet Posted: 11 November 2009 at 1:17pm
Forgive me if this is a technical issue that I don't understand yet, J, but exactly why can't the scarf and the limbs both be reddish (done very successfully in the earliest shown version)?  And earth tones are very seasonal anyway, right?

Uh...right?

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Quote Manupix Replybullet Posted: 12 November 2009 at 2:31pm
I love it, I also loved the 1st one of Nov 9, deserves to live on its own (even without snowman). Mandragora root scarab?
And I love the current turkey one best of all!
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