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i thought this was a joy challenge not an school fight... what's comes next?? ""i wait you outside the school after the ring bell"" ... jajajajajaja... sorry i didnt resist make this comment. Now a constructive to boths sides...
1) in any case than ELK wanted to a cricit, he had asked for them. Dont you think?
2) Mister Elk, been nice is always an option, if you dont even care about the critict, just say: YES, OK, BUT I WILL NOT DO ANYTHIGN, THX FOR THE BLAH BLAH. or blah blah blah THX.
3) who cares about 3
4) i still dont understand all this drama ppl create... :S..... useless drama
5) Lets egos outside the school plz... and dont matter if your mister NOOB or MISTER G0D, or MISTER POTATO MAN, whoever you are, been nice is always an option :) (for boths sides)
6) (just to add wood to the fire).... just because i want moar fun
YAH ELK, YOU SUX, YOU AND YOUR DARKIE STYLE! I DONT LIKE YOUR PIXEL CUZ THEY ARE TO MUCH PIXELATED!... AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A PIXELARTIST??? WELL I CALL MYSELF MISTER CRITICMAN JUST BECAUSE I LIKE IT AND I HAVE A LOT OF LINKS AND... 
WHAT YOU GONNA DO?... DO ROUNDED SQUARES NOW? TO MAKE THEM NON-PIXELATED ART OR WHAT????.... SEE YOU OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL!... YOU GONNA RECIVE A TONS OF CRITICTS AND LINKS TO MAKE YOU FELL OLD AND NOOB...
dont hit me back....
Elk, you bum, how dare you not listen to CRITISASM?!
And you call yourself a pixolartist...
Elk and Angel, just get a room.
angel shut the fuck up
you've failed to get your point across up to this point, and judging from the fact that you're coming across as someone who himself has a 'holier than thou' ego, you're not ever going to get it across.
On top of that, why you're so obsessed with convincing Elk to take criticism on a site that isn't intended for criticism is beyond me.
Then why do you criticize other people's works on a daily basis? Hmm?
Quite hypocritical, no?
"Soooooo, giving criticism and improving work isn't something that people do on pixeljoint?"
I agree with you.
Also, an artist can be annoying and everything you want, but I think we are here to judje the work, not the artist behaviour (talking about the gallery section), and if someone rejects your criticism, just say "okay" and go on. You can't change his will, as it's part of his works. I'm not saying you can't give advices and criticism (they are always welcome here, since we are a community), PJ just like Pixelation is famous for useful comments... just don't go any further if an artist says no. :)
What's up with all the hurtful comments? "Failure as an artist"? "Already way better than you will be"? Looks like people need to take some chill pills :O
""let's his "holier than thou" ego take over." Can't see anything wrong in this."
The problem with the "holier than thou" ego is that it feels very annoying, and it's hard to appreciate someone's work when they come off as an abrassive fruit cake.
"If you want to give criticm and have people improve their work, go on pixelation."
Soooooo, giving criticism and improving work isn't something that people do on pixeljoint?
EDIT: First comment btw. Pretty great way of introducing myself.
"let's his "holier than thou" ego take over." Can't see anything wrong in this. Don't want to campare Elk with others, but Dalì had a similiar behaviour. I see Dalì as a Genious, and so Elk, mostly because we all know he have self-criticism, he's not just a common moron exalted by his own works.
Did I say he wasn't? Read before you comment.
Dex { But more often than not, he simply ignores all criticism and let's his "holier than thou" ego take over.
lovin the crazy hairdo :p
But...why would he eat noodles? :P
Realy good piece man, congrats.
angel of the great man, listen. EVERY artist is going to make a piece with flaws, it's inevitable. nothing can truly be perfect, someone is always going to find fault in someone else's judgement. but in this situation, the artist (elk :3) wishes to move on and leave this piece behind so he can move on to bigger, better things. instead of spending the time to change a few little nitpicks you have on this portrait for a challenge that ends today, he'd rather work on something that can give him more practice and better knowledge of anatomy, volume, shape, form, etc. i'm sure he appreciates the critique, and you know that, but calling him a failure of an artist that will never improve is a little much- especially just because he wants to move on to other things that are more important that this. Elk's taken critique before- he can accept it, so don't call him out on that. Realize that he probably, like all of us, has more important things to do in his life and let him move on. Thanks.
trust me he is already way better then you will be.
i think you're wrong in some sertain point, pixel is art, and the artist is the only that have the power to say if it is done or not, because maybe he really wanted to finish it like that, maybe he has the hability to make it better, but he intended to make it in this way.
sorry for my bad english :S
Then that makes you a failure as an artist who will never get any better.
No, I was always done with pieces and I dont modify pictures.
If you want to give criticm and have people improve their work, go on pixelation.
So I've only been pixeling for a year. Big whoop. It doesn't take a seasoned artist to take to crits.
The piece is certainly lacking in a lot of areas, almost all of which other people have noted in their comments. But you just shrug it off saying "Oh, well, I'm done with this."
You know what that is? An excuse. A lame excuse.
Even newbies learn to stop making excuses at some point.
Sorry for being rude now, Angel of the Great
But youre a big big newbie, you wouldn't know :)
A piece is done when the artist says so.
Elk doesn't have to change it. Critique doesn't always lead to better pieces. Too many chefs spoil the soup and all that. eg. eating noodles puffs up cheeks, which runs counter to getting a likeness. Fire like shading on cheeks is visually interesting, but runs counter to getting a likeness. So if Elk incorporates my recommendations, he would drop the noodle eating and abstractness. But then it may lose its original intention, cohesiveness. Plus changing pieces to suit other people's sensibilities is very boring ...
That said, for realistic stuff (I guess this is semi-abstract), you got to use refs.
Well good for you. But if there are still people critiquing it, it's not finished.
Just saying...
you dont seem to understand
this piece is finished for me.
If only you could take crits...
Sharprm's edit looks much better and you should try to touch up your picture to match some of the elements he pointed out.
I thought it looked like him before I looked at a ref. I think you're method might not be so successful for other dictators though (ie. asian, communist clothes, big glasses and hair really help).
i know theres many variations of deformations for caricatures e.g the hair but it is intended to keep it somewhat clean as i respect him to a certain extent! (= i dont want to be executed when he finds this ;P) and of course, using colors to signify glass and other stuff surely is possible but i limit myself in things that are acceptable, so i dont want to do a hyperphotorealistic noodle or some sorts ;) also, i never use references when i do pixelart, so dont mind me if he doesnt look like him, i think he does resemble him :D
Nice pixelling but it doesn't look like him. Check out "Tom's mad blog" for lessons on caricatures. Think about using colors to signify glass, noodles, lips being different material. Chopsticks are held too low imo. Are his glasses crakced? Here is a rough edit:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/sharprm/kim3.gif
haha i thought about a background with red sky and clouds, really moody and with lots of blood or even a guillotine, but then again, it would take the whole attraction to the bg so I thought a decent gray would fit best, for now
i love the job on ear and glasses ... also nice aa, but im not sure abou the bg, lokks kinda unfinished, something red and communistic would be nice,... also very clishe -_- ..... ^^
His eyebrows don't seem to match his expression, imo. But he probably has that kinda weird facie thing (and it's a caricature ofc).
Anyway, I really love it, nice and stylish.
shaded the forehead on purpose :) if i wanted it smoother then i would have taken more colors but its fine ^^
Lovely skin mottling effect. I think that the way you've shaded the forehead is quite different from the rest, having a similar problem on mine too D:
His left eye's too small and slanted IMO, the rest of the cheek doesn't match it.
haha mozzy, how thoughtful =)
looks nice elky dear, i wish your preview border wasn't so AWESOME(big) so we could see more of your lovely pixeling in the preview =D
"doesn't he have cancer?"
Thankfully, yes. Pancreatic cancer.
Looking great! One more other challenge that you are going to place in the top 2. =P
Exxxxlent! I didn't know about this nice guy's eating habits...
His tasteful clothing trends also open whole new dimensions to caricature.
And, thanks for Ronrey, I learned something useful. In case I meet him some day, I'll be sure to ask.
I cant even begin to express my hate toward this little troll. Though the PA is very nice and detailed c:
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haha, entertaining read.. guys, can you please inform me whenever an insult swordfight and/or catfight like the one here is happening on the site? thanks =)