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Crosell (Level 1 Gangster) at 10/21/2008 7:59:49 AM
I like almost everything of it, maybe slow down on some dithering. You maybe overdid the dithering on the cloud, but other then that it looks good to me so... And about your older version it is good also, but compared to this one it's bad, your a skilled spriter be proud of that!
keep it up ;)
castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 7/5/2008 10:58:20 AM
oh, the flat part... yeah... i see i'll have to try fixing that... but i wont add AA on the exterior though, that already made the cloud look very bad on certain bg's, so i removed it there. thanks for the c+c :)
FlyGuy (Level 7 Underboss) at 7/4/2008 11:13:52 PM
I guess it's not as much of a dent as I thought. I have a high resolution set on my machine so stuff may look funnier.From left to right staring at this, you see the first 2 large pieces of hair that stick up? The 2nd one, (being the largest/tallest one) toward the top point of that hair there is a section where the pixels stop bending and are just straight for about 10 pixels. It sort of looks like a dent, especially with the choice of colors in that area and maybe my resolution. Only way I could think of fixing it is to maybe try to curve it a little more before having such a large straight section of pixels at that 45 degree angle...Or you could AA the whole thing to completely fix it.
This is an awesome piece though.
castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 7/4/2008 9:56:44 AM
i cant really find this dent you're talking about :/mind showing me?
FlyGuy (Level 7 Underboss) at 7/3/2008 4:32:14 AM
This is great...But the thickest piece of hair, the middle one, has a big dent in it. Hopefully I'm not just seeing this. Good work though! I love DBZ! castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 4/3/2008 2:34:51 PM
don't worry this one is quite an exception in my gallery (as you see, it's a remake on an old work, my intention was to see how better i was here, "technically", not to create something new).
Hatch (Level 3 Hatchikyu) at 4/1/2008 6:39:14 PM
I'm keeping my opinion of this to myself for now, but I just want to commend you, castiboy, for handling the controversy calmly and maturely. I hope you decide to do more original works in the future. castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 4/1/2008 2:18:34 PM
i wouldn't know how to make the nimbus less solid though, maybe reducing contrast? i kinda like the looks of it, "cartoony" like you say. the dotty looks of it were at least good practice for me, hehe. thanks for the comments :)
new-age-reject (Level 1 Depressed) at 3/31/2008 3:25:46 PM
This is great, I love Dragon Ball.I kinda agree with ThereIsNoCure that the nimbus is a bit solid but it gives a nice cartoony effect.
ThereIsNoCure (Level 11 Godfather) at 3/31/2008 2:01:19 PM
Clouds are plain. The dithering is too obvious, as leel pointed out, and makes it looks sort of solid. That being said, I think the rest of the image looks great. castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/30/2008 9:26:21 AM
it was looking really plain with simple shading, and i wanted to practice dithering, that's why i did it, but i'm aware the final result doesn't look that great, thanks for the criticism though :)thanks for your support MM & Larwick :)
leel (Level 5 Killer Klown) at 3/29/2008 6:48:44 PM
I really don't think you should've dithered the cloud.. or at least made it a bit more fluid and randomized - cause as is, it doesn't suit the style and aesthetically speaking doesn't work very well.. same with the clothes - though on the red the dithering actually works to smooth out the transition, while on the cloud it's just... dotty. And it clashes with the very crisp trail of the cloud..
Tarenken (Level 2 Quiet One) at 3/29/2008 4:49:35 PM
Personally, I find this a lot better than a lot of things that are weekly showcased, in terms of pixel techniques.gj casti
Larwick (Level 8 Shodan) at 3/29/2008 6:13:27 AM
Guys stop saying that something isn't art, anything can be percieved as art. It's subjective. Rather than saying 'it's not art' you should say 'i don't see it as art'. Would make me happier anyways. :) Thanks.And so what if castiboy gets in the weekly showcase? He'll recieve more attention and may obtain an urge to better himself, this could be a positive thing for everyone, since we all strive to improve ourselves and help others do the same. I'm sure some people have learnt alot from the arguments in this piece. Taking it off the site entirely may not recieve such a positive result. Although some people may find what i just said to be rather silly, i'm just looking on the positive side. The mod's have made their decision, i'll personally be stricter next time. Let's just get over it.
zAk (Level 2 Quiet One) at 3/29/2008 4:58:21 AM
dogmeat: Well 90% stuff on this website is not art anyways so it doesnt matter. Would you accept it as art if it wasnt based on an image but still it was Goku?
castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/28/2008 11:19:25 AM
you made your point clear, but i think i made mine too as well, as jalonso said, "the focus here is pixelart technique and subject matter is not that important."just, my focus were the technical aspects of pixel art: dithering, anti-aliasing, well chosen colours, etc. people are not to think i came up with this all by myself, that's why the original art is there.
blueleds (Level 1 Rookie) at 3/28/2008 8:50:29 AM
A good tribute to Akira Toriyama's magnum opus. A few minor flaws here and there, but overall not bad.
You should animate this. It would only need about 3 frames to make it look good. Set it to play at a low speed (like 15fps), and basically just make his hair and belt flap around in the wind. If you were really keen, you could even make the reflection in his eyes move a little and move the shading around in the clothes too.
Gil (Level 4 Lieutenant) at 3/28/2008 8:19:53 AM
Having a WIP thread has nothing to do with this. I proved it's a copy, what more do you need? It's a pixel for pixel match in the line art department and he copied the shading from that official artwork.I don't mind if you guys say: "We know it's a copy, but we don't care", but don't say it's not a copy
Elwin (Level 5 Sniper) at 3/28/2008 5:09:29 AM
Really guys, leave casti alone! He even has a WIP thread: http://z14.invisionfree.com/c_spriting/index.php?showtopic=8613 Now just for some general critic: I'm not a huge fan of the dithering in the darker shades, as it is making them look quite square. I love everything else, but maybe a little more contrast on the light shade on his clothes? castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/28/2008 3:44:24 AM
"thing"... thank you...but i was wondering the same thing...
Bengoshia (Level 1 Depressed) at 3/28/2008 3:26:19 AM
How did this.. thing get into the weekly showcase? castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/27/2008 2:18:41 PM
i didn't mean it to be a full original piece, as you see i used an old work precisely to be able to compare it with what i used to do back in what... 2005 i think. my aim here was more into the technical aspects of pixel art: dithering, anti-aliasing, well chosen colours.concerning multi-posting, that won't happen again. i thought it didn't matter with this display system (as in this is not a forum), guess i was wrong.
shmupstick (Level 5 Detective) at 3/27/2008 2:09:01 PM
purpletree: castiboy already answered regarding the postings.I think it's fine. You learn a lot doing stuff like this. And the hilights on the cloud is his own.
purpletree (Level 6 Yonkyu) at 3/27/2008 12:54:47 PM
i still agree ewith Gil... and wats with the 5-in-a-row post sor quinzuplet posts. Gil (Level 4 Lieutenant) at 3/27/2008 12:51:33 PM
No, no, by all means, leave it there, I'm not a mod. I just think there's zero creativity in that piece, and imo, it goes against the rules too, but you never claimed for it to be more than it is, so don't mind me if the mods don't mind...The fact that I can put the images on top of each other and even the shading matches pixel per pixel does mean you totally copied it, so try some original stuff next time, you're more than capable of doing so...
castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/27/2008 11:46:55 AM
i guess i didn't quite remember how i did that old one... i did on the other hand work a hell of a lot on this version, i don't see the part when "pixel for pixel" it's the same... i put a lot of effort into this... but if you really consider this as intolerable go on and delete it, i guess i should have rather made something new instead of finding some old work to revamp... my bad... and i was so happy with it... Gil (Level 4 Lieutenant) at 3/27/2008 10:19:31 AM
It's traced, shading is copied, and it's pixel for pixel the same. He said he used a reference pic, not that he copied the entire thing, which he did. I'm appalled he dares to add this to his gallery. He could at least have changed even the tiniest detail...
jalonso (Level 11 Godfather) at 3/27/2008 9:04:33 AM
I do not consider this a rip. It is ref'd and stated in description.Original art is always better but this is fine to me.
Gil (Level 4 Lieutenant) at 3/27/2008 7:48:42 AM
Would you mind explaining why this is just a rip? You even included the image you ripped off in your comment?http://art.game-designer.org/pixelart/edit/songokuvx2.gif
Wait a bit for it to load. Oh, and it's a bad edit, but it shows clearly enough why this is nothing but a rip. You traced the lines, copied the shading, everything...
castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/27/2008 4:16:44 AM
well thanks.i was replying to different messages, the reply system only notifies the person on whose message i press "reply" i think ._.?
Badassbill (Level 9 Necrophiliac) at 3/26/2008 11:51:14 PM
I don't like how you did Nimbus, but Goku turned out Great. Also, if you're going to comment make sure you do all of your replies in one post. This isn't dA =P
zAk (Level 2 Quiet One) at 3/26/2008 7:23:50 AM
very clean and neat - i love it! It perfectly gives off the atmosphere of the first series of Dragon Ball! castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/26/2008 5:09:16 AM
thanks everyone else i didn't reply to :] castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/26/2008 5:00:52 AM
i'll recount and may merge it to see how it looks. thanks for the tip :) castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/26/2008 5:00:01 AM
one of my biggest pixel art it is. i see what you mean about the palette, i just like to do that kind of stuff with palettes, but i guess i can remove it and reupload. thanks for the comment. castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/26/2008 4:56:59 AM
i tried to make it global, as of to give some texture to it, but i know this could be better. for my defence, i'm not used to dither this much anyway, so this was pretty experimental to me. castiboy (Level 5 Assistant Manager) at 3/26/2008 4:55:09 AM
i understand, i quite simplified it in here, i guess i could try and give it the old more natural feeling, maybe later sometime.
Adam (Level 8 Brigadier General) at 3/26/2008 12:40:26 AM
Well, this brings back memories! Nice piece.
Paint Shop Pro shows only 17 colors. Merging the skin highlight - lightest yellow and the second dakest clothing - skin colors would even decrease this without any noticeable difference.
l3m0n5 (Level 4 Deputy) at 3/25/2008 9:24:58 PM
OMG THE BEST PICTURE IN THE WORLD. Even for conjouring the thought of pixeling this i give it 6 outta 6 starts. I remember back in the day trying to sketch this same drawing out. :D well done too
Pandora (Level 2 Corporal) at 3/25/2008 8:48:37 PM
I, on the other hand, LOVE the style you used on the Nimbus.
I don't even watch the show, but I fav'd this piece. Excellent work - hope to see more of it!
sensation (Level 1 Intern) at 3/25/2008 8:38:00 PM
Nimbus doesn't look that great but Goku is done REALLY well! jalonso (Level 11 Godfather) at 3/25/2008 8:25:10 PM
Very nice to see something this big from you.I only don't like the palette as its distracting both where its placed and the decorative nature of it.
Zephiel87 (Level 4 Lieutenant) at 3/25/2008 7:38:44 PM
Don't really like the dithering. seems like you just randomly decided which areas to dither.
SillyJonna (Level 2 Kukyu) at 3/25/2008 6:31:27 PM
This is definitely an improvement over the old one, and I like it very much. However, I like the bottom of Nimbus in the old one more. On the new one, the lines look too similar to each other, but they're more varied and cloud-like in the old one.Other than that, you did a great job!
Darth Mandarb (Level 8 Brigadier General) at 3/25/2008 5:17:00 PM
I really like this! Great dithering going on there!
Broli (Level 3 Private Eye) at 3/25/2008 5:11:29 PM
Ah, DBZ, a classic anime. :D I like the shading on this and the dithering. Nice job on this, really like the line art on it.
greenraven (Level 8 Cannibal) at 3/25/2008 5:10:57 PM
Vote, as in vote into the gallery.Kinda with skeddles here, but it could have been worse, could have been another Sonic or Mario.
skeddles (Level 11 Psychopath) at 3/25/2008 5:04:56 PM
I don't like DBZ, but this is pretty good. ^^;
amerup (Level 3 Sergeant) at 3/25/2008 4:19:17 PM
This is amazing, man. Faved.Obviously got my vote. ;D
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