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Title: iso cliff tileset
Pixel Artist: schrumpfkopf  (Level 4 Team Leader :: 3851 points)
Posted: 10/20/2008 03:35
Statistics:  39 comments    27 faves    0 avatars

again a not so well presented game asset!

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Lindion45 (Level 4 Lieutenant) @ 12/26/2014 11:07

Please repost!


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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 2/24/2013 02:50

 Cheers :--)


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showtime (Level 6 Made) @ 2/22/2013 19:13

Wow, that's crazy beautiful


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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 2/21/2013 01:42

 http://www.alienloveboss.com/2d_03.html

 

voila


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showtime (Level 6 Made) @ 2/18/2013 21:06

Is there a new link or anything? I'd love to see this, if possible.


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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 3/22/2010 06:23

http://www.vectory.mybin.eu/spritesxxx.html

 

check here :)


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TheChan (Level 1 Rookie) @ 10/30/2009 02:20

You should repost.


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big brother (Level 11 Admiral) @ 8/6/2009 17:13

I want to see! Let us have a look!


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Mathias (Level 7 Junk) @ 3/2/2009 10:19

What the heck! I wanna see this, why has it been changed to inactive?


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Badassbill (Level 11 Big Foot) @ 10/24/2008 19:18
Looks a little soft in places for my tastes, but Great work none the less.

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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 10/24/2008 12:49
is fuer age of empires 3 auf Ngage - und kommt raus Anfang 09 =)

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Morgengrauen (Level 5 Killer Klown) @ 10/24/2008 10:56
heftig. gibts nen link? würde mir gerne mehr von dem spiel ansehen!

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DJD (Level 4 Button Man) @ 10/24/2008 09:15
beautiful grass/dirt stuff. I think it looks even better than your average commercial rts.

Since I could comment on the awesomeness for a while, I'll just say there's a weird visible grid in the corner on the bottom ground level where the two cliff sides meet. You can see the noticeable darker green line on the left and some reddish pink pixels near the right of that 'tile'

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Sig~ (Level 6 Hitman) @ 10/24/2008 08:22
Really nice! I love the texture

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Elk (Level 6 Saber-toothed Tiger) @ 10/24/2008 03:27
very awesome :) love the colors yea grass looks flat

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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 10/24/2008 02:54
@Bob: Ok point taken - and i'm far away from putting up a discussion =)
I think the way PA is done in commercial companies is very different from the "purist" - approach you are talking about. Thats not good nor bad it's just a fact, and the reason this piece looks a bit different

And indeed - it might well be that at some unfortunate Moment i used the Brush and not the Pen - tool... (something that causes me physical pain =) And that might well be the reason for a fuggd up c-count.

Not to forget that the costumer wanted me to change the grass for like 10 times =)

Oki - enough sorrys for now. Thanks for making your point.

@tymon: thats the base for the asset - i hope you dont mind tweaking my own pieces?



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The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) @ 10/23/2008 18:03

   No, not a religion, just preference. In other words, the grass looks wonderful and blends very well with the rocks. However, on the pixel purist level(I hate the word "purist" as much as the next easy going fella), it just doesn't seem to fit well on the pixel art level, as does your cliff and rock tiles. 

   When I looked up the color count on some of the grass tiles alone, it caught up to about 90+ colors!  I'm not sure why anyone would try to choose up to 90 colors and make them work decently in their piece. In fact, so many of them are near in value, that they seem pointless in being there all together.

   I guess the use of the layer is very ambiguous just on how the user percieves or uses them. IE, one can use layers in a piece to set up a scene, where the background is on one layer, and the character on a separate one. The final image, being the combined "flattened" layer to press into one layer alone. This is fine.

   But when layers are used with opacity and transparencies, it can cause uneeded colors to surface, lost control of the pixel piece, which really should be the point of pixel art since it's existance: Control, due to restriction. If we lost control over the pixel level, then is it really Pixel art, or does it transform into a higher form of hi-res digital art? Again, questions that we all have our opinion on, and that will be debated till the end of time, as there is no clear cut answer: However, I'm sure you already know our answer here at Pixeljoint, which will most likely disappoint you(as well as others). But as a lowly mod, I will stand by my choice against the piece for the time being, in no direct offense to you, as I love your previous works. I'm not against being proven wrong, though, as I would like to know if this was truly done on the pixel level; maybe it was, and you had to save the grass tiles as some jpeg image, causing uneeded artifacts to come out. That or some other strange file format conversion glitch.

   Again, this isn't saying your piece is crap, or that we're better than you: it's just bordering that level of what PJ considers pixel art, and hi-res art. If I were to play a 2d game like this, I'd be stoked about the grass tiles that looked like that. For a game, or a client, it's understable that they would want more colors, not understand the point of good, clean pixel art. Do it for the money, we understand...I just wouldn't consider it pixel art, is all...

Hope this straightens some things out...


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DoomDoom (Level 5 Detective) @ 10/23/2008 08:10
Nice tile... great Rocks!!!

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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 10/22/2008 02:59
no - only full-color layers in ps. i was manually tweaking the grass for quite a while to please the costumer. i guess thats the reason it lost a lot of its initial crisp-ness (as still seen on the grass on the rocks). And also for those weird white stuff on the upper right.

Is the use of layers banned  at PJ by any chance? (it would make pixel-art more of a religion than an actual skill imo)

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The B.O.B. (Level 11 Master Assassin) @ 10/22/2008 01:09
There is a CRAP load of colors in these tiles. The rock tiles look great. The grass tiles also look great, but not so much in the pixel art department. By any chance, did you use opacity and layers to get the desired effect with your grass?

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Cactus_Hat (Level 1 Thug) @ 10/21/2008 14:24

awesome, doesnt look like pixelwork!


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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 10/21/2008 10:02
many thx for the friendly feedback!

sadly i dont own this piece so i cant post the actual cropped tiles. ( i was only allowed to add some sort of mockup to my portfolio)

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zi-double (Level 9 Necrophiliac) @ 10/21/2008 01:27
The rocks look at very nice also colours for them ... Also I like and grass over rocks ! Grass in the plain part look at very light, smooth and very unsorted maybe ... but rocks are great !

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born (Level 1 Rookie) @ 10/20/2008 23:09
hello! Thats really impresive,i can't figure out how the seperate tiles looks like <which is great>. But im curious. Would u b so nice and show the separate tiles to us? :)

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smokehound (Level 1 Rookie) @ 10/20/2008 14:30
Phew. This is awesome! Love the barren patches of soil, but the best part is those little shadows where the grass and rocks meet!

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chanfan (Level 7 Underboss) @ 10/20/2008 12:44
Ooooh! Pixel-orgasm!

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Darth Mandarb (Level 10 Operative) @ 10/20/2008 11:38
Now that's damn good!

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pixelaro (Level 1 Rookie) @ 10/20/2008 10:40
The grass/dirt is just.. wow. perhaps the best I've seen. Do you mind sharing how you work to make it like that? I'd guess you would be working with those two greens on separate layers, no?
Rock tiles seem rushed but I guess its paid work with deadline etc and they do their job.

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Chace (Level 5 Captain) @ 10/20/2008 10:27
This is very nice.

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skeddles (Level 11 Sphinx) @ 10/20/2008 09:40
Very pretty ^^                

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macula (Level 6 Hitman) @ 10/20/2008 09:02
Wow very nice work.

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Saris (Level 1 Rookie) @ 10/20/2008 08:57
This is such cool looking terrain piece, I would love to see this in a game!

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ElectroNico (Level 6 Serial Killer) @ 10/20/2008 08:56
Not so well presented, but great work !! Great rock line art and great lightning. The grass is great too. ( Hmm ... too many "great" in my comment ;))

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schrumpfkopf (Level 4 Team Leader) @ 10/20/2008 06:50
yeah but it doesnt make it through the approval it seems... certainly cuz its not done in paint ...

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Phrozen (Level 1 Intern) @ 10/20/2008 06:29
Well presented or not, this is cool beans.

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withalligators (Level 4 Deputy) @ 10/20/2008 04:11
This is gorgeous...how many colors? 6/6

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Haru-D (Level 1 Thug) @ 10/20/2008 03:51
I beg to differ, this is a wonderful piece, although there are some whate spots that are not transparent.

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